RM: In a way that reflects what it’s like to look at the work. RM: So to speak. Each person will see something different. And it’s not just that they’ll see themselves in it. If the room changes, the work is different. RM: And if the lighting changes? RM: A slight shift creates, basically, an entirely new picture. RM: It’s not a new picture. RM: It is and it isn’t. It’s a completely different visual phenomenon. But it’s still the same physical object, the same square or rectangle. It’s the same thing. But what’s seen isn’t the same. So it’s still but always changing. RM: Why is that important to you? RM: It has to do with the way I see things in the world. Things aren’t still, or they rarely are. RM: One could argue they never are. From the point of view of physics. RM: And even if they were still, I’m not. I’m moving. I’m moving past things; my eyes are moving. Life isn’t made up of frozen moments. So in that way I’d like to think these pictures are life like. RM: So for you this is a kind of realism. RM: Narcissistic-realism. RM: Is that the school you belong to? RM: Can narcissists have a school? RM: I’m remembering something you said in an earlier conversation. About looking through the window.